fifty-shades-of-klay-main said: More than 4 limbs can’t work for large egg-laying things due to the limitations (4 limbs barely work!), so a large hexapod line would need a longer history of true vivipary.

oh man, I totally forgot about that— developmental limitations don’t always sit at the forefront of my mind when I’m designing critters, aha

anyways, I’ll link up this ask u sent in a while back cus, for anyone else wondering about this, here’s the much more in-depth reasoning Klay here gives for the egg/developmental limitations for animals

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ouch! that head turn :(

and I’d be hard-pressed to figure out where those hind legs ventured off to…
nice rendering, tho
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ouch! that head turn :(

and I’d be hard-pressed to figure out where those hind legs ventured off to…

nice rendering, tho

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Hey just curious, (and im not sure if you answered this earlier??) but what's your opinion on quadrupedal dragons with wings (3 pairs of limbs in total) in a world where all other creatures only have two sets of limbs?? It personally drives me up the wall because it breaks structural and evolutionary rules (I had the same issue with avatar :'c )
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I can def see where the frustration could come in, but that’s honestly one of the few “not-necessarily-biologically-accurate” things that doesn’t bother me a whole lot w/ dragon designs. more, diverse creatures w/ 6(+) limbs would certainly be FANTASTIC, and def add more credibility to the dragons having 6 limbs, but, personally, not something that gets under my skin

tho, I think it also has a lot to do w/ the variety of the dragon designs, and the semantics of the word “dragon” w/in the worldbuilding context

like, only allowing huge, fire-breathing, behemoth lizards to have 6 limbs is p boring and, yes, breaks evolutionary laws (since, if 6 limbs were to come about, certainly many more varieties of critters would evolve 6 limbs from that first 6-limbed ancestor, not JUST giant lizards)

now here’s where semantics w/ the word “dragon” becomes interesting. I went into this topic in greater detail in this post, but basically, dragons across many cultures are INCREDIBLY DIVERSE, so u could easily have mammalian, reptilian, and even amphibious or fish dragons all living together on the same planet, and still have them considered “dragon” ONLY for the fact that they all have 6 limbs. this “6-limbed vertebrate” definition of dragon is actually something I’m currently experimenting w/, cus’ I think it would be a fun concept to apply to a world

anyways, that much broader definition of dragon makes the 6-limbed thing not only interesting, but (theoretically) biologically possible! it gives u the opportunity to reason out HOW 6 limbs came about for this particular section of the vertebrate population

one idea that I like a lot is the “primitive early ancestor” idea, as theorized in this post by Swirlix, for example. from this early ancestor, convergent evolution comes into play and could create very mammal-esque (or reptile-esque/amphibian-esque/etc., but I’ll use mammals as an example for simplicity’s sake) 6-limbed creatures (but obviously not mammals cus’ they aren’t directly related to any of the actual 4-limbed mammals). these “faux mammals” may be incredibly similar to mammals, or only marginally similar (maybe all these “faux mammals” more closely follow specifically monotreme structure/habits, or have some other very non-mammal-esque qualities about them)

I also rather like the idea of polymelia, such as seen in this cow-

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these genetically-mutated limbs tend to either be useless, or a detriment to movement and regular functioning of the animal. however, if, say, a small climbing animal (like a lizard or little lemur) happened to be born w/ an extra set of arms, and, say, this set of arms wasn’t TOTALLY useless and could help w/ clinging, then it could be a positive asset to the animal. maybe the animal’s arms naturally have extra flabby skin, so the extra set would also have extra skin, and BINGO, possible gliding potential! this idea for hexapod evolution is obviously much more fanciful/far-fetched than the early ancestor idea, but it’s still fun to think about

EDIT- fifty-shades-of-klay-main also brings up a good point about the developmental limitations of egg-laying mammals, so this is something else to keep in mind~

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So um heres some old shitty dragon oc of mine
and um\
i thought this was good at o ne point???

So um heres some old shitty dragon oc of mine

and um\

i thought this was good at o ne point???

What the fuck is this? I'm new to this.
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this is a blog on the tumblrs but instead of posting cat gifs and deep edgy quotes we post shitty dragon art.

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have you seen ymedronart/ymedronrising's dragon art ? they do interpretations and mutations of FR dragons based on their Flight (& they have their own comic going on w/ draconic creatures) but an example of their FR work on ymedronrising/post/96750323681 and under their flightrisingart tag C: i just find it all very imaginative & cool, what do you think ?

usually I wouldn’t answer this publicly, as we don’t like to name specific artists on here (whether in a negative or positive light), but after fawning over these designs for at least 45 minutes, I have an OVERWHELMINGLY positive opinion of these designs, to the point that I think all u lovely blog-goers would benefit from checking them out. that, my friends, is above and beyond what I’m talking about when I speak of “creative design”

critiques— definitely don’t agree w/ the placement of the wing shoulders. also, some of the designs fall a bit too far over the edge into the “creative” zone, to the point that they become unrecognizable as their own breed (I mistook one the earth Guardians for a Snapper, for one). I’m not sure if this level of morphing and molding was planned (after all, this can work to push a subtle “point” of the flight, such as the fact that Snappers are easily the most compatible w/ the earth element, or that arcane in general might disfigure a dragon beyond recognition, as was mentioned on one of the designs), but it could also be a detriment if it becomes too difficult to distinguish breeds

again, fairly minor critiques in the face of such STUNNING design. like damn

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Fun designs, albeit a bit inconsistent per design if you ask me. Kind of clusterfucky at times. That’s just a personal opinion, I prefer simple and straight-to-the-point designs myself. A big 10 for originality, definitely!
I really love their non-dragon art.

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I’m awful when I have to make fun of things. This was supposed to be a ridiculously awful picture but… Uuugh. Anyway enjoy a picture of your mascot, how do wings and hands ;u; 

I’m awful when I have to make fun of things. This was supposed to be a ridiculously awful picture but… Uuugh. Anyway enjoy a picture of your mascot, how do wings and hands ;u; 

f-nodragonart:

f-nodragonart:

reminder that between 5:30 server time on the 13th (tomorrow) and 5:30 on the 14th, there’s a registration window to join Flight Rising, if u have yet to make an account!

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hey, it’s open in my time zone now, it might be open to everyone by now!

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one more reblog for the later crowd!

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f-nodragonart:

reminder that between 5:30 server time on the 13th (tomorrow) and 5:30 on the 14th, there’s a registration window to join Flight Rising, if u have yet to make an account!

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hey, it’s open in my time zone now, it might be open to everyone by now!

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Ramoth’s puny neck wings, Canth’s cumbersome tail…. ssssss. :(

Ramoth’s puny neck wings, Canth’s cumbersome tail…. ssssss. :(

maybe the designer and animators for that pomme commercial frequented this blog for anatomy help ;D
Anonymous

oh anon, plz~~

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but as nice as the sentiment is, that anatomy and rending is far beyond my (our?) knowledge, so I rly doubt we could’ve been much help

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hecktickettalks:

aviantheatrics:

SO WHY THE FUCK AREN’T WE TALKING ABOUT THIS TRANSLUCENT, ALMOST JELLY-LIKE MUSCULAR DRAGON PROTECTING A LADY IN A POM WONDERFUL COMMERCIAL

no really, we need to talk about this. this needs addressing

it’s incredibly disappointing that this 17 second jelly dragon has some of the best dragon anatomy I’ve seen, and it’s a 17 second jelly dragon

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reminder that between 5:30 server time on the 13th (tomorrow) and 5:30 on the 14th, there’s a registration window to join Flight Rising, if u have yet to make an account!

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Hello guys, I'm working on a ref sheet and I was wondering if I could send in the flat colored character for you to review? I have been told that the colors aren't matching, so I wanted to hear your opinions on it. I also think there's something wrong in the way I draw back/front legs, but I can't really put a finger on it. Would that be too much of me to ask?

sure, u can send it in! however, since we’ve been very busy in our daily lives as of late, we’ve got a loooot of critiques backed up in the inbox rn, so I can’t say how long it’ll take for us to get to ur’s other than, “a while”

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Super quick redraw of 58052834164!
The original looks like it was a base/traced, anyway. But still! I wanted to join in on the redraw fun.

Super quick redraw of 58052834164!

The original looks like it was a base/traced, anyway. But still! I wanted to join in on the redraw fun.